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But leadership should also mean responsibility
Does it bother you, slightly, that so many lives have been lost and continue to be lost in the Iraq war--yet, some people, who want to be president, continue to take no responsibility for their actions? Does it bother you that they continue to espouse bad judgment (there's more talk about another unplanned war)? Do you think they lose sleep at night wondering about the lives they have changed forever? Do you think they ponder, just a little, on how historians will recount one of the worst blunders in American history?
It's actually quite a scary prospect when those who wish to be president and leader of the free world refuse to acknowledge their mistakes. It seems, the act of contrition would more likely show courage and good common sense rather than the fear that some have that it would be a sign of weakness. I don't know about the rest of the folks who may just be sitting on the palms of their hands without fully digesting what this seems to indicate, but if I could just get your attention for a minute, or two, just to say this: (1) at the highest level of government, we trust our lives and the lives of America's children to our leaders when we elect them to offices that most of us will never hold. (2) Yet, and as suggested by our polls (and if you've read some of my other writings on this site, you should know how much credit I actually afford such measurements), some of our politicians and spin-pundits believe they've convinced us to sleepwalk our way on a plank like medicated drones and put another in office with all the signs of being indignant and/or refusing to accept responsibility for the perishing of our brothers and sisters in a costly and unplanned war. (3) How afraid are you of this concept or reality? It scares the bejesus out of me!
But I've got hope, and lots of it. Maybe we should all have hope and get on our knees and sing:
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
Kumbaya, my Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Someone's crying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's praying, Lord, kumbaya
Someone's praying, Lord, kumbaya
O Lord, kumbaya
Yep, it scares the bejesus out of me! And that's all she wrote--until the next time.
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Joy R. Cullum
October 12, 2007
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Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-12 10:18:10
By: warren
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I only look for you now, Joy! But don't get it twisted, I'm not a fanatical fan or anything. I must have scared the bejesus out of you, huh?
So where do you hang out? Hahaha. Now you must think I'm a loon. I'm not, I think what you write is so realistic and to the point that it's worth saying hey girl up close, but I'll settle for a response to my note to you yesterday. Did you know you could send private notes in here or do you not bother doing that?
It bothers me too that nobody challenges the people on their vote to go into this war but now the same people with the same bad judgment want us to make them president. It's amazing to me that people would go along with that!!
Just keep up the good work and keep us tuned in. It's great! And you're better than the rest. No offense to the rest in your group though.
Amen sister!
And that's hot!
-Paris Hilton
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-12 10:32:45
By: andi
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Warren, you sound like a preliminary stalker. Ease up dude. Leave precious jewel alone. She's too special, let's keep this business.
As for "might" over "right," maybe somebody is advising not to admit wrongdoing or bad judgment so this lingers on but you can just guess that it will come out big time in the next few months. It's too big a deal to ignore or pretend it didn't happen and no amount of political power is above all those moms and dads without their loved ones.
It's like the calm before the storm. And like Isaac Newton said, what goes up, must come down.
Joy, so, where do you hang out anyway? That's a joke, I swear.
Warren, why do you always end with that stupid quote from Paris Hilton? That girl doesn't deserve a paraphrase or quoting. But maybe you're doing the other thing and just pointing out how silly she really is. If so, then I get it.
Andi man
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-12 10:47:17
By: warren
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What's up Andi? Hey, I sent you a private note too, so no worries. So where do you hang out? It's a joke. I like how well Joy writes. I'm a good fan. Sounds like you're in the Joy Club too. Well, I was here first so hit one of the other threads with the older chicks on the site (no offense ladies, you're all wonderful and funny writers. I just happen to like Joy's writings A LOT).
I end with Paris Hilton because she's one of the simplest people on earth and I just don't understand why she's famous. That just tells you that money can't buy you brains or legitimacy, but it can get your pictures taken for TV--a lot. And if you then go to jail, you can get on reputable talk shows. It's just easier to make fun of the whole thing, cause sometimes when you think of some of the devastation that's happening all around us, yet people like Paris sucks up the news, it's easier to laugh than to cry like a girl (no offense ladies!). But life is a journey Kemosabe!
And, that's hot!
-Paris Hilton
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-12 10:51:46
By: andi
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Edited By: andi
On: 2007-10-12 13:48:04
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Dude, you actually sent me a note! Joy writes very well but I'm no fan of anyone except some family members that I know. Actually, I like some of the other writers a lot. Laughter is good for the soul and they all seem to get that. You can get the right message out with a lighter touch. And it's good to see women do their thing in politics and humor. Because politics is humorous.
Hang in there Paris. You'll get there!
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-12 11:05:34
By: Ty
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So that's where you all went. I heard about the fist fight happening on this thread. Is somebody going to send me a note? Warren, I'm not serious about that AT ALL!
I missed Barack on CNN last night. Did somebody see it, and how did "The Orator" do? It's always good to watch him talk sense on TV. Man, I hope the people are really paying close attention.
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-13 11:55:04
By: checkmate08
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Edited By: checkmate08
On: 2007-11-11 08:19:17
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I was too late to catch Obama on CNN. I caught only the soundbite where he said Hill showed lack of judgment.
I liked the cumby yah song. That was cute.
If we get someone in the White House who want to start a war with Iran, that could be the tipping point that the rest of the Arabs in other countries will need to retaliate against Americans badly. This administration is packed with war mongers and the guys making these decision never have to give up a loved one to the war they started. It's just a crying shame. Hillary and others gave Bush a blank check to invade Iraq without adequate proof of WMD and now she and the usual misfits signed off on giving him another blank check to start another unplanned war with Iran. She seems more determined to go the wrong way than take the smart and diplomatic route.
They showed a clip of Al Gore talking about his doubts about Bush invading Iraq. But Gore sounded meek when he gave that speech. It was just not as bold as Obama's speech. But Gore won the Nobel Peace Prize for his work on global warming and now people are talking about him running for president even though he said he won't. He just doesn't seem to have the fight in him to do that job anymore.
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-13 13:38:05
By: atre
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Edited By: atre
On: 2007-10-13 15:41:44
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This is going to be huge if Hill is the nominee. Whoever the Republican nominee is, he is going to put the fact that Hill voted for the war in her face as much as possible. Bill's political clout will be tested big time!
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-10-24 07:01:48
By: andi
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atre, I actually think the Clintons are immune from being stopped by scandals. Haven't you noticed? But you're right, Hillary's vote to go to war in Iraq will be problematic. But if Giuliani is the nominee, her problem will be with the folks in the deep South and whatever confusion the Republicans put in advertisements. They want her and Bill stopped by whatever means necessary, so look for the rapid TV ads with lots of mudslinging.
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-11-11 08:17:09
By: checkmate08
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andi, but maybe not. Hill's chickens may finally come home to roost
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Re: Oops, she did it again!
Posted on: 2007-11-13 11:09:16
By: warren
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yeah, it seems like it. ya'll should hit that page with the Twilight Zone on Hill, 'bama, and Edwards. It's hellish funny.
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IT'S TIME TO SWITCH THE CHANNEL!!
Posted on: 2007-12-04 17:43:34
By: hardlyworthit
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Edited By: hardlyworthit
On: 2007-12-22 08:20:41
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Americans are feeling the pinch in every way possible. The housing market is a catastrophe. The U.S. dollar is at an all-time low. Peter Schiff, on the Glenn Beck show (I know, I hate to quote his show on anything), said the government is lying to us when they say inflation is at 3%. He said people went out and spent borrowed money on Black Friday. Like drug addicts, people continue to spend in addictive ways. Everything is more valuable than money these days so that sounds like inflation. It's simply a mirage that things are going well and there's money to spend when so many people are without jobs. Recession: when the state of the economy declines; a widespread decline in the GDP and employment and trade lasting from six months to a year. The predictions are so dire that it seems closer to depression: a period of drastic decline in a national or international economy, characterized by decreasing business activity, falling prices, and unemployment. It's been reported that Europeans are coming by plane loads to purchase items that we imported from them. They arrive in large numbers and purchase items with the stronger EURO dollar. Baby Boomers will retire with less money to live on. Some will have to work past retirement age just to survive.
The news reports are mostly jumping on board with reports that Iraq is doing so much better. Here's the trillion dollar question: How long will our military have to stay in Iraq in order for Iraq to do better? This, I believe, is relevant because it doesn't make sense that Iraqis would want to live for the rest of their lives in a military state of foreign occupation. Will we continue to fall for more lies from our government and the media? Correct me if I'm wrong but 180,000 is the number of American soldiers believed to be in Iraq. With that many soldiers away from their families and now living full time in Iraq, our military would have to get the job done. So when can they come home? The answer seems to be they won't be able to come home if they are to keep the powder keg from erupting in Iraq. How am I doing so far? They finally put enough soldiers in the disaster to calm the storm, but how long must this be maintained so others can claim success?
PLEASE JOIN ME IN THIS PLEDGE:
We, the people, demand that the government and media tell the truth; we reject your lies and the continued lack of regard for the lives of our soldiers and their families; we reject your dismantling of institutions that would have protected Americans against predatory lending practices; we reject your inability to protect children from the other types of predators who continue to destroy their lives and that of their parents; we reject your distortion of the facts when you lie to us about the state of the family court system that is by no means tilted towards women or the protection of innocent children; we will boycott you, your companies, your fabricated/distorted news reporting; we reject your alliances with foreign companies that export dangerous toys, poisoned foods and pet foods, and other dangerous consumer items into the U.S.; we will make up our own minds about our next president; we will reject whomever (presidential candidate) you push to the forefront for your own self-serving reasons; we reject politicians who use tax payers dollars for adulterous affairs and then turn around and tell us that we aren't entitled to receive some of the same money for our health and our children's health; we will shut you out as you have shut us out of our futures and that of our children's.
BOYCOTT NEWS PROGRAMS THAT DISTORT THE TRUTH!! GET INFORMED. POST INFORMATION WITH COMPANIES THAT STEAL FROM US AND HARM OUR LIVES. BLOG THIS EVERYWHERE!! TAKE BACK AMERICA NOW!!
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Re: IT'S TIME TO SWITCH THE CHANNEL!!
Posted on: 2007-12-06 11:08:47
By: gellanu
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Edited By: gellanu
On: 2007-12-07 15:20:59
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Since you guys are calling for boycotts of companies that rip us off/the media, etc., I'll get the list started for us and if anyone else has more to add, please do so.
Companies behaving badly:
The latest company to employ sweatshops and take advantage of people in poor countries while taking jobs away from Americans is: Victoria Secret. But they've been doing this for a long time. I found this on Victoria on AlterNet:
D.K. Garments is a subcontract factory with 150 foreign guest workers (135 from Bangladesh and 15 from Sri Lanka), which has been producing Victoria's Secret garments for the last year. None of the workers have been provided their necessary residency permits, without which they cannot venture outside the industrial park without fear of being stopped by the police and perhaps imprisoned for lack of proper documents.
The Victoria's Secret workers toil 14 to 15 hours a day, from 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 or 10:00 p.m., seven days a week, receiving on average one day off every three or four months. All overtime is mandatory, and workers are routinely at the factory 98 to 105 hours a week while toiling 89 to 96 hours. Treatment is very rough, as managers and supervisors scream at the foreign guest workers to move faster to complete their high production goals.
Workers who fall behind on their production goals, or who make even a minor error, can be slapped and beaten. Despite being forced to work five or more overtime hours a day, the workers are routinely shortchanged on their legal overtime pay, being cheated of up to $18.48 each week in wages due them. While this might not seem like a great deal of money, to these poor workers it is the equivalent of losing three regular days' wages each week.
Workers are allowed just 3.3 minutes to sew each $14 Victoria's Secret women's bikini, for which they are paid four cents. The workers' wages amount to less than 3/10ths of one percent of the $14 retail price of the Victoria's Secret bikini. They're saying we can do something about Victoria's corporate greed and slave labor by: Writing to Leslie Wexner, the CEO of Limited Brands, which puts out Victoria's Secret clothing, and protest the treatment of the workers in Jordan:
Leslie Wexner, CEO
Limited Brands Inc.
3 Limited Pkwy.
Columbus, Ohio 43230
United States
Phone: (614) 415-7000
Fax: (614) 415-7080
E-mail: tkatzenmeyer@limitedbrands.com
Read the rest: Victoria Secret Sweatshop labor.
Disney, Guess, Nike, J.C. Penny, and Victoria's Secret tops the "neediest and greediest" corporations list. The Gap was in the news recently but they have been a part of the sweatshop business for years (although some news organizations downplayed that in that recent news about them and how they've supposedly been doing better...maybe better at covering it up) Sweatshops still operating.
Here's the recent article on the Gap and child labor in India: The Gap Sweatshop Story: Child Labor in India. What happened?
BANKS: Chase and Bank of America outsource customer service jobs to the Philippines. (Most banks do this now as a common practice.) This is really a shytty thing because it's bad enough identity theft is bad in America but how much safer would you feel having to give your social security number, address, and other personal information to someone in another part of the world? It happened to a friend of mine who applied for a Chase credit card with a Philippino woman over the phone, and three weeks later, Chase had no record of my friend's credit application. She said she was on the phone with this woman for about an hour, and mainly repeating, over and over again what she told her. Now, she's worried and wondering who she gave her personal information to and what will happen to her credit (she's pulling all her credit reports from all the reporting agencies). Chase has a hand's off approach to the whole thing. They could care less even though they are the ones who directed my friend to call this woman in the Philippines by making it their customer service center. THIS IS SOMETHING BIG THAT WE SHOULD ALL BE CONCERNED ABOUT. WHO ARE WE GIVING OUR PERSONAL INFORMATION TO WHEN WE CALL A SO-CALLED AMERICAN COMPANY BUT END UP ON THE PHONE WITH SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS ANOTHER LANGUAGE AND VERY POOR ENGLISH AND IS MOST LIKELY OPERATING FROM SOME MAKESHIFT ROOM IN ANOTHER PART OF THE WORLD? BANKING DEREGULATION ONLY WORKS FOR RICH GUYS AND CAPITALIST GLUTS.
IBM sent thousands of American jobs to India. Colgate Palmolive did the same thing. Although Siemens ICN is a German company, they make a ton of their money here in America and from American consumers, but their plans for America included importing Indians to do the work here. Americans even had to train their Indian replacements in order to receive severance pay, read about "One man's crusade against outsourcing American jobs."
You guys might want to hook up to other media inside and outside of the U.S., especially when sometimes you can't get credible information or just reporting of the news rather than unique spins. Try: the UK's Guardian Unlimited.
Here's the BBC news: Click here.
Here's NPR: Click here.
Here's C-SPAN: Click here.
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